Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Chat and Discussion' started by fly2low, Feb 16, 2014.
Equal time/budget. Definitely more fair than "no you can't" LOL
My coworker DDs his RX8 R3 (some of you may have seen him at the Streets of Willow track day on 2/2) and absolutely flogs it at tons of track days. It's an awesome car, makes a spectacular sound thanks to an intake and exhaust, and looks fantastic to boot, but he never gets to skip a gas station and I'm sure he had to buy stock in OPEC just to keep it in oil. The rotary is a fantastic engine (my first car was an 83 RX7 GSL) but living with it on a day to day basis is kind of miserable. Mazda is a great company though that really cares about the feel of all of its cars from the most expensive to the least. They also are one of the best companies around in terms of supporting their grassroots racing customers. I secretly hope they come up with a crazy, firebreathing little MS2 to give the FiST some real competition.
Exactly. I've DD'ed mine for the past three years and its beginning to get to me. The constant gas station fillups and impending doom of losing compression (however i'm still within spec on my original motor) is getting to me. Not to mention I'm REALLY looking forward to real, usable torque inside the revband you normally see on the street. Even with BHR ignition, BHR catless midpipe, and a MazdaManiac tune, it just feels like so much effort to get up to speed from a stop and you yearn for some low-end grunt.
On track? All that goes out the window and it feels at home. The 8 is still a momentum car, however. If you can keep the speed up and the revs above 5k, it just screams.
But 99% of my life is spent on the street and I'm looking forward to the FiST ever so much. I'll have another 8 one day, no doubt.
It is called trying to stay married. I m not that patient. In the process of thinking getting a FiST, we have got two cars: we switched her daily driver and I got another muscle car.
Those two she was positive or at least positive-leaning.
But every time I bring up FiST I get hammered although I have got probably the best deal for FiST known to mankind. She keeps saying things like "the car looks too small for you," "it looks goofy,I don't like the front grill," lI dont like the colors (there were only white and black)," You can get it if you lose x lbs and can fit to the recaro seat,"
..... Ironically, we and her parents are Ford investors in the stock market and I love Ford muscle cars (well, I like all muscle cars but I know Fords the best).
Can't seem to get my squaw squared. Help? I m still trying to get a FiST and the current incentives are gonna end soon.
What about getting a 2006+ just for track and carving the twisties? I don't understand the Renesis engine enough. Can one keep the car parked and just occasionally take it out for a spin? I mean will the rotors get flooded or something else from just parking the car?
I'll try, I got mine through with surprisingly little effort. Here is where I was at;
First I already had a 2011 Fiesta and it had proven to be a good fit for our family. One child, small dog, wife, myself.
I had previously sold my fun car, a 1991 Audi TQ 20v to get a reliable commuter, without any encouragement.
We are fans of Top Gear and they just happened to have a glowing review of the car.
After the test drive I was able to approximate the car to what I was driving back in the early 90s when we met, my 1990 Corrado G60.
The 2011 was due for a tire purchase.
Last the cost was so low for the performance and I was able to get the monthly payment about $20 lower than what I was paying on my 2011 at the time.
Good luck, things seemed to have aligned for me to get into this great car.
Because I need to sell the one I have to fund a FiST. I'm in no position right now to have two cars.
It's good to drive it every week or so but no, it won't flood from just sitting. Flooding of RX-8's has one real cause and that's the influx of fuel dumped into the rotor housings right after startup. If the car isn't warmed up before shutting off, too much fuel may have pooled into the chambers causing a flooding situation.
I like the practical angle. Of course, how practical is a car that just waits for the occasional weekend and track day? That's my deal, maybe not his. I'd be surprised if it is not daily driven. I already had my T-REG TDI as a commuter but would not have bought it if I knew about the FiST before it. So it goes...
@fly2low: I like the business angle -- you're a Ford investor (so maybe calm down on the extreme haggling!). Also, that's a fine muscle car you have there! I don't think you have much to complain about -- you apparently know how to get your way often enough. If you really want a FiST you'll get one. Also, just promise to lose the weight -- a win/win.
Wivey asked me tonight if i'd rather get a used cayman or s new FIST. Answer woiuld have clearly been fist all the way if i could fit in the recaro.
I start reading her. She'd rather me buying a more expensive car that doesnt depreciate much anymore than a cheaper car that still depreciates much.
They're quite different, right? Running costs could be quite high on a Cayman, but you already know that. If the badge makes you feel better, there's no price on that (plus it's already evident that stuff matters to your wife). Don't discount that for long term harmony!
My counterpoint: Having owned a number of expensive Euro-cars, I rather enjoy flying under the radar again. I feel the same way about my VW T-REG TDI but wouldn't if it were instead, the mechanically identical, Porsche Cayenne Diesel (I literally park next to one every day!).
Total investment cost will be lower on a FiST, no two ways about it. If it helps you feel better that you lose less (by percentage) on an inevitable sale, in some indeterminate time in the future, that's another thing.
You know, i like small cars but i now have to accept the fact that i m a big guy. I just crossed out elise and exige from my "someday" list. My upper arm rubs the door on s2000. My lower arm rubs on the door of viper gts i sat on today. So more and more out of my "someday" list. I actually fit in fist although i look big in it.
And i dont really care about brand. I have a mitsu and fords now,too. Had an air cooled and a watercooled 911before too so dont have to have one. I just love tbe chassis balance on cayman.
Running costs on a Cayman could range from quite high to simply astronomical. I work for the biggest Porsche parts house in the world (short of Porsche itself) and we do a fair bit of water-cooled business. If you had a pre-09 Boxster or Cayman then you run the risk of having your engine grenade due to the dreaded IMS bearing issue. Plus, prices for everything are probably 70-80% higher than for a FiST. Porsche tax is no joke. That said, the Cayman is awesome. It's no 911 but it's more forgiving than a 911 is when it comes to sloppy driving. A 911, especially any pre-993 model, will really bite back if mistreated. That said, if the air-cooled market now was where it was two years ago, I'd be 964 shopping instead of FiST shopping.
Life took an unexpected turn. It turned out that i really like FiST. Pulled a trigger and it's parked at home now. Thought wouldn't get a black, ended up with a black. Thought would go with a base car, went with a loaded car. Thought would go with dealer A or B or C, ended up with my neighborhood (same zip code!) dealer.
As a note, a side story, two weeks ago many dealers had plenty FiST. This week, it is rarer than a sober guy at an Ohio State tailgate party (Go Bucks!).
As another side story, one dealer let me go home with only $400 price difference, not even trying to counter my offer. Today they repeatedly called saying they were cutting the price. Too late, buddy.
Anyway, I am happy. I am a FiST owner now.
Too dark to take pictures tonight.
Hey! About time! I've purchased two cars in the time you've taken here.
Seriously, welcome! We all appreciate how thorough your decision process was. Bring your car to Willow Springs (HTM) with us on Saturday!
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