Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Chat and Discussion' started by F1ST, Dec 11, 2013.
No honk, just a chime.
This was the same on my "11 SES.
I will not be disabling my horn, if that is the only workaround.
I'll live with my chatty Fiesta.
I miss the gas mileage. I mean, sure, in the ST it's hard not to kick the go pedal now and again but when going for maximum MPG's I can't even get close to my old Fiesta SE. Granted on that car I had an Injen CAI, A Flowmaster DBx and a Bojix splitter all of which may have contributed to better MPGs (maybe?).
Also I miss the money I gave away when I traded in my Fiesta SE. I think certain extended family members think I'm crazy for trading in a 2012 SE for a 2014 ST. But these same people rarely, if ever, buy new vehicles and they treat what they have as appliances.
I will miss the MPG for sure. (Name change, i started thread). I was hoping for better than what is being reported. I'm willing to deal with it. It is still great MPG for the performance. Maybe try some narrower LRR tires.
As for giving up the '11 it is staying in the family which is nice.
Maybe I'll try a tank or two on my old SE rims/tires. I doubt my brother in law would mind.
I discovered something I miss on the ST that was on my 2011 model. It's the turn-signal clicker. The 2011 had a sound like a tick-tock clock or maybe a metronome, and it was fairly loud and easy to hear in all conditions. Maybe that was it's downfall. The ST indicator can barely be heard if there's much ambient noise.
I've driven and ridden in several Fords of recent years including a 2012 and 2013 Fiesta as well as a Fiesta ST. While I didn't have any extensive time in any one of them, the turn signal clickers seemed about the same to me. Personally I wouldn't want it real loud anyway or it would just bug me to death if I'm sitting at a stop light with the turn signal on.
That's funny.. lol
I know folks who have swapped out the the blinker relay to make it either louder or quieter on other cars. Don't know if it's possible on this one..
My 2011 Fiesta SE had heated mirrors & heated seats. My 2014 Fiesta ST doesn't have either. I just couldn't justify $2000. More for Recaro/ heated seats. I will take the real foglights, updated MyTouch Sync, 17 inch wheels with low profile ties for better handling, & the power of the turbo. Guess I really dont miss my 2011 after all!!
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The Fiestas do not have a turn signal relay.
The 40 mpg on my old
2011 Fiesta SE
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What do they have now? What makes the sound?
This is from the '14 Service Manual
The timed on/off cycle for turn lamps is determined by the BCM and is set to flash approximately 75 times per minute if both the front and rear turn signal lamps operate correctly. If a front or rear turn signal lamp is inoperative, the BCM fast flashes the remaining turn lamp(s) approximately 150 times per minute to indicate a bulb outage to the driver.
I remember looking this up with my '11 SES.
I never found a reference to or any sound making device.
It is my belief that the sound is generated within the BCM itself.
OK, you're forcing me to ask: what's a BCM???
I am sure that you know what the ECM is.
The BCM is the Body Control Module and controls lighting, AC/Heat, and many other things.
There is also a TCM for the Transmission and all of it's functions.
One of these days, they're going to get smart and just wire everything into the CPU.
There must be some kind of logic in having so many individual control modules, but it escapes me...
There have been cars with bas many as 16 computers in them.
I remember reading some time ago that it was originally planed because of the modular design of modern cars.
As many cars built by the same manufacturer use the same engines or same transmissions in different models but not pared the same.
The control modules can go with component .
I think now it is mostly to save on wiring and connections.
Each component talks to it's own controller and all the controllers talk to each other via a serial buss.
Ford might not like you doing that to their car
The turn signal click you hear is a speaker playing the sound. I remember i could hear my old cell phone cause interference noise when the thing clicked on and off.
I found this in the 2014 Fiesta Service Manual.
The IPC provides a repetitive 1-second on/off tick-tock chime tone along with visual RH or LH turn indicators to inform the driver the turn signal or hazard lamp function is on. The IPC receives the turn signal indication data from the BCM over the MS-CAN .
The IPC stands for Instrument Panel Cluster.
Separate names with a comma.