There is talk because where I live cars w the recaros are scarce. As a result the ones you can find aren't at a great price and typically come with nav and sunroof, which I don't want. So instead of being a 2k option it winds up being a huge difference in price. I can get a base st for 20,500 out the door vs. 25,500 for the only one within 300 miles that has them. With the way used st's aren't holding their value paying 25 and change means you're going to take a haircut in the neighborhood of 5 grand before you walk out the door. The solution is to buy used but used ones with recaros are also hard to find and if you buy used you can't do the way octane academy. So right now my options are: base st new, used st w recaros and a long 18 hour road trip or used abarth for way less.