Cobb or Mountune?

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Chat and Discussion' started by Klink, Sep 6, 2014.

  1. Klink

    Klink New Member

    Hey guys,

    So before I even get the car I had bought the Cobb motor mount, It just seems like a necessary so your engine doesn't slam into the car.

    But other then that, Cobb and Mountune have about the same parts, engine wise. (Hell, Mountune even uses Cobb's Access-port) The only thing is, Cobb is a bit cheaper, while Mountune has warranty Friendly products. (when, I get my FiST I got a 7 year warranty on it so I don't want to just throw that away as soon as I mod)

    On the flip side, I would want the MRT Exhaust on my car as well, so which company will work better with that exhaust.

    Any advice is open, I just want other people's input and advice on the matter.
     
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  3. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member

    I believe that both make parts of the finest quality. You've nailed it in the decision. Biggest "Bang for the Buck", or keep the warranty.... It's a decision you have to make about your own Risk/Reward ratio... I've decided to go with mountune, and have waited for a couple of months after I received the parts to get that approval from Ford Corporate to be able to keep the warranty. I've read the Cobb manual and it says that use of their access tuner voids the factory warranty. ..but you can replace the stock tune at any time, and who's to know? with the mountune 215 only the dealer can reset the programming. ... . All that said, I thnk that buying the "custom tune" option from mountune, wherein you change whatever you wish mechanically, then use the AccessPort as a data logger and for up to 6 months they will do a custom tune based on that data... .. No warranty there either, but it would be PERFECT.

    Now sitting in my living room waiting for an October 6th appointment at a Ford Racing Shop..

    mountune 215
    High Flow Induction Hose
    Quick Shift Kit
    mountune intercooler (sillver)
    mountune charge pipe upgrade
     
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  4. WScottCross

    WScottCross Well-Known Member

    Either is a great choice. As Zormecteon said, the decision is yours on keeping the warranty versus modding it for performance. I personally drive far too miles to worry about warranty, so I went for performance mods and I personally chose Cobb for hardware but I have custom tuning from Randy Robles at Mountune.
     
  5. Klink

    Klink New Member

    I find it funny that the Cobb access-port "voids" the warranty, but it is included in the Mountune MP215 kit that "doesn't void" the warranty. and I am not gonna spend 500 bucks on something the dealer can only access, that is ludicrous!
     
  6. WScottCross

    WScottCross Well-Known Member

    The MP215 runs around $1100-1200 and is a more conservative tune than the Cobb Off The Shelf tunes that are not warranty supported..
     
  7. Klink

    Klink New Member

    but with that same kit, all you got to do is plug that v3 into the computer and then pull an aggressive tune and before you turn it into a dealership, put back on the mountune tune (that is an odd thing to say...) I just find it silly how strict Ford is on this warranty stuff then kinda set themselves up
     
  8. timboslice

    timboslice Active Member

    It's not a regular v3... It's a Mountune branded Accessport called mTune. It has custom software on it with only 1 map (mp215). There's not even a stock map on it. The mp215 kit is very much a factory tune.

    I'm hoping after the warranty period is over I can add a few more bolt ons (intercooler, dp, etc) and get Randy to unlock my mTune so that I can run a custom tune. I think I read somewhere that this would be possible down the road...


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  9. iLiptiKal

    iLiptiKal Active Member

    The MR kit should be coming out at some point too, so by the time your warranty is done hopefully it's released and you could add the parts and update your mTune with that map.
     
  10. Randy@mountune

    Randy@mountune Active Member

    The mTune flasher looks similar to the AP, but it's got different firmware and a different calibration, which is Ford approved. That is why it retains the warranty. It's also CARB exempt.
     
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  11. Randy@mountune

    Randy@mountune Active Member

    Not possible to do what you've mentioned, actually.
     
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  12. timboslice

    timboslice Active Member

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to that package being released!
     
  13. Klink

    Klink New Member

    oh ok, thank you for clarifying that one.
     
  14. Klink

    Klink New Member

    I am new to mountune and modding in general so bear with me here, I catch on fast, but what is the MR Package exactly?
     
  15. timboslice

    timboslice Active Member

    It's a "non-warranty approved" package. They have one for the FoST which piggybacks on most of the MP package with a few additional bolt-ons and a different tune.

    It makes a lot of marketing sense as a lot of people who went with the MP package, will eventually want to add additional upgrades (usually after warranty expiration). You also get additional use out of the mTune device!

    My bet is there will be a an MR240(ish) for the FiST that will include the Mountune intercooler, downpipe and cat-back... Probably similar numbers to the Cobb Stage 3.
     
  16. mrtn

    mrtn Active Member

    MP=Mountune Performance. MR=Mountune Racing.
     
  17. Ken@mountune

    Ken@mountune Active Member

    I'm not sure I would say the MP215 is a more conservative tune. If you compare their claimed HP increase (2%) for their stage one, we offer more than 2% increase. Additionally its important to remember we have been tuning turbocharged Fords for over 30 year. We don't offer Subaru, VW or any other type of performance products. We are dedicated to offering the highest quality Ford performance products that are engineered for maximum reliable performance.
     
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  18. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member


    For me, those last three word, .. maximum RELIABLE performance say it all. .. the car is not the "flavor of the month" for me. Rather I intend to own it for well over 20 years, and to be able to have it sold as being able to be put back to completely stock, but sporting period speed parts. I will save every piece and hose that gets traded out for mountune parts. .. or any other . ( I have the stock wheels and tires in the basement with less than 100 miles on them, and every tag and piece of paper that came in the car)
     
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