at this point there is really no debating, just a when, and how I'm going to get one. I've been wanting one since I first heard about them 6 or so months ago. This will be my first car I've purchased through a dealer, so I need pointers. First off, I'd like to start with what I want. I want a tuxedo black NEW 2014 or 2015 FiST. Really the only option I want is the recaros. I want my payments to be around 300 a month. Sticker price on one at the dealer (ingot silver, basic with no options) is 21,700. Honestly wouldn't mind it without the options. Okay, that's out there so now let's talk business. What would be a good down payment/value of a trade in? What are some ways the I could get him down? Does anyone know of ongoing incentives? I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Any input is much appreciated. And like I said this is my first time buying from a dealer. Thanks, guys!