Fiesta st vs se

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Chat and Discussion' started by burton227, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. burton227

    burton227 New Member

    Alright so I just sold my 2010 bumblebee camaro and was looking to buy a new car. I am a college student in san diego and was looking into the ford fiesta because of the mix between fuel economy, cost, and sportiness. So heres where my question comes in, I can currently purchase a 2014 se 5 speed manual for around 13-14k out the door thats after taxes and everything and I have 14k left over from selling my camaro. But the I saw the sexy FiST and like the look a lot. But it has a substantially higher price tag and would be getting out the door for about 22k so I would have to finance and get another job to end up paying for it (or just more hours at my current job) but so the deals going down saturday regardless of what happens and I need some FiSTers to help me out. image-2.jpeg
     
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  3. smatty

    smatty Member

    Go get yourself a fist on saturday.
     
  4. wash

    wash Active Member

    If you don't get the ST, look at the 1.0 EcoBoost, it should be very tuneable if the aftermarket supports it.

    The 1.0 Formula Ford that set the "road car" record at Nurburing used a turbo from a 1.6 to make 220 HP I think.

    If Cobb or someone else offers a tuning solution, it may become possible to have ST class performance for a lot less (but the interior won't be as nice and the suspension will need some work).
     
  5. Gpfarrell

    Gpfarrell Member

    Buy the SE, focus on good grades now for a better job later, and buy a better car then!
     
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  6. FiSTpump

    FiSTpump New Member

    I traded a 2014 1.0 in on my FiST, they are worlds apart in every way.


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  7. BRGT350

    BRGT350 Well-Known Member Staff Member

    I would not bother with the regular 1.6L Fiesta. It is very limited in modifications and performance compared to the ST or what the 1.0L can be turned into. The value of the ST is amazing! I paid almost the same price as a ST in 2011 for my Fiesta, dumped $8k into it, and can't even come close to being on the same level as the ST comes from the factory. If the ST is still a little pricey, I would go with the 1.0L. It produces more torque than the 1.6L and can be easily modified. There is almost nothing for the 1.6L NA engine. If you are looking to not do any performance modifications or looking for maximum performance, then the 1.6L NA is perfectly fine. It is a great engine when mated to the IB5 transmission. For performance and modifications, I would go with the EcoBoost options.
     
  8. ST-in-Mich

    ST-in-Mich Member

    Honestly in your situation it might be best to go with the SE for now. Focus on school then treat yourself when you're finished.
     
  9. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    As much as I'd like to say get the ST, if it's not a financially viable option I wouldn't do it. I've wanted a Fiesta as long as they've been in the states and now that the ST is out I want it even more, but until I'm financially stable there's no way I'm going to put myself in that position. If you can't swing the payments with your current job situation then I'd not recommend it. If you can pull more hours and still keep grades up in school then that's a possibility if the extra hours brings you enough money. But for me keeping grades up doesn't work so well when I work too much on top of school.

    You might even want to think about getting a used Fiesta or other car and save the extra cash you didn't spend. You won't lose so much money on the used car as you would on the new car. Then you can start saving for the car you really want and you'll be a leg up and sell the used car in a couple years with not as near as much of a loss as you would if you bought a new Fiesta.
     
  10. bryramos

    bryramos Member

    If you really want the ST and can make it work financially, then go for it. Heck cut your unnecessary expenses! I traded up from an SE and the ST is a completely different beast. I don't miss the SE at all.
     
  11. JBD319

    JBD319 New Member

    Here is my personal experience with a choice like this. Back in 2008 I bought a brand new VW Rabbit. I got it for 16,500 during a VW sign then drive event. I looked at a GTI, but it would have cost me a minimum of 23,500 at the time. I sold it to myself by saying, "i'll just add aftermarket parts to my Rabbit and it'll be just as good". The aftermarket for it never really took off for one, and I never had enough cash laying around for a $3500 turbo kit. Moral of the story is, I regretted it every day, not buying the GTI. If you can't make it work financially then make the smart decision, but if you can I would say go for it, or you'll be kicking yourself. My 2 cents
     
  12. burton227

    burton227 New Member

    Yeah what I have ended up deciding is to get the se and get the manual trans and leave it for the most part stock besides for some visual modifications and then upgrade once I either finish college or become more financially stable in the future. Now I just need to decide between the stock 1.6L NA engine and the turbo charge eco boost engine. Anyone got any weight on that?
     
  13. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    If you want a lot of options on the car, the ecoboost is not the ideal choice as it's an MPG package so you're stuck with the hubcaps, basic Sync radio, and so on. But I guess if you've only got $14K to spend, you really are getting a base car with that anyway. The 3 cylinder ecoboost package MSRPs at $17,150 on the hatch or $16,650 on the sedan. The base S model hatch is $14,675 and the sedan is $14,175. You'd have to do some talking down no matter what to get an out the door price of $14K...and you said you want an SE, not an S, so...

    I still stand by my opinion on getting a decent used car for much less than $14K now and save up for the ST in the meantime. You won't have near as much of a loss when selling the used car since that is your end game anyway.
     
  14. burton227

    burton227 New Member

    Hahah yeah I know but I really wanted a new car for the reliability for the next 3 years. I have 3 years or so left of college and as soon as that is over is when I join the navy and with all the signing bonuses and the steady pay it will bring I will be able to afford really anything that fits my fancy or I may not even need much of a car so I can just give this one to my girlfriend who will probably at that time be my wife. So after much thought and deliberation I am going to go with the hatchback 5 speed se black exterior on black interior. The car should be available tomorrow afternoon the dealer said and my true car price of $12.8k + taxes and licensing has been accepted.
     
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  15. jimclark

    jimclark Active Member

    Sounds like a reasonable plan. I like the fact you're trying to keep expenses and payments and so forth under control while you're in school. Remember--you're not going to be in college forever, and you'll still be young when you're leaving school for the adventure in the Navy. So then you can buy a nicer car that will sit somewhere, doing nothing, while you're spending six months on a WestPac deployment. Actually, I think you should buy a really, really nice car then, and I'll garage it for you. Yeah, that'll work . . . . :happy:
     
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  16. burton227

    burton227 New Member

    Hahah will do man. As long as you keep my ferrari under her cover and keep her tuned up I'll let you take her for a spin once a month ;)
     
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  17. aborbs87

    aborbs87 Active Member

    Fellow college student here, in class as we speak lol. I work part time while going to school, my advice would be not to get another job first off. I know how hard it is with just one on top of school, so that alone will not be worth it just for the car. Have you looked into a lease instead of buying? Short term you may not be able to mod as extensive, but in the long run it would save you money to eventually purchase one. Maybe a newer model ST in the future after your lease?... Just an idea. As for working a little extra at your current job to pay for it, if you know you'll be able to handle it go for it. Lastly if you go with the SE that's still a great car. I had a 2011 SE before my ST and loved it. As you have stated already it's economy is great, but at the same time you still get a great sporty feeling that could hold you off. But personally for me my FiST is a get away from school and work. Even if I'm driving to school it's an escape for just that little amount of time, and I can have some fun and relax. It's an incredible car and completely worth it in my mind.
     
  18. burton227

    burton227 New Member

    Thanks for all the support and answering all my questions guys. I am currently signing the paper work to drive home my white 2014 fiesta se 5 speed hatchback. They accepted my 12.8 offer and my out the door price is 14.6 I'll be sure to post pictures tomorrow as tonight it'll probably be too dark. Thanks guys!
     
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  19. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    Happy for ya hope it works out as you planned :)
     
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