I did it...

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Chat and Discussion' started by ParsonsArmy, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. ParsonsArmy

    ParsonsArmy New Member

    Well guys I did it.. I bought my first new car, a 2016 FiST. Is there anything you all reccomend doing to it when I get it tomorrow? It's the first turbocharged car I've owned, when should I do the first oil change?

    Wish me luck!

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  3. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    Congrats. My 2016 Fiesta ST was also my first new car and first turbo car. It's been a fun 3k miles in a month and a half. Currently all stock. My current plans include window tint going on this Saturday and a Cobb rear motor mount sometime in the near future. I was planning on the Boomba shift kit, but I've gotten used to the stock shifter so I'm unsure if I will go ahead with that.

    I recommend just having fun driving it on day 1. In stock form the Fiesta ST is really fun. The only mods I ever plan on doing to mine are listed above. Other than that it's a pretty spectacular car IMO.

    I'm just doing my oil changes every 5k miles, including the first one. I don't think it's really needed and kind of excessive to do several oil changes in the first couple thousand miles. However this is just my opinion and not backed my any actual research. Some people go so far as to change the factory oil at 100 miles. I personally didn't park my car at home until I had gotten the car to 150 miles after picking it up at the dealer. :p
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  5. ParsonsArmy

    ParsonsArmy New Member

    [QUOTE="Sil3nt611, post: 40244, member: 27"

    I'm just doing my oil changes every 5k miles, including the first one. I don't think it's really needed and kind of excessive to do several oil changes in the first couple thousand miles. However this is just my opinion and not backed my any actual research. Some people go so far as to change the factory oil at 100 miles. I personally didn't park my car at home until I had gotten the car to 150 miles after picking it up at the dealer. :p[/QUOTE]

    I appreciate all the good information, I'm not even sure if I'm going to mod the car at all at least for a few years. I'm stationed in Hawaii for the next three years starting next week and from what I'm hearing, they don't allow tint.

    I've heard a lot about changing the factory oil out when you first get it but I'll just ask the dealership tonight when I get it, otherwise I'll probably do the oil every 5,000 miles like you.

    Now that I have to ship my car next week which takes 45 days of the car just sitting in the yard with the occasional start up to move it on a trailer or a boat, does anyone see any problems this may cause it any action I should take?
  6. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member

    Shift Kit, (mountune) and Pedal spacer (to being the gas pedal a little higher). Those two things change the ergonomics significantly. Once you do them you'll wonder why you waited, but drivinig the car as is and enjoying for while it a great way to go to.
  7. OrangeFist

    OrangeFist Member

    Congrats! Sweet ride. First enjoy it as is. Then a Mountune shift kit. That's what I have so far. Planning for a Mountune shift knob and maybe Boomba wing riser.
  8. ParsonsArmy

    ParsonsArmy New Member

    Anyone else have some input on when to change the oil? My car should be here within the next few days. I'm starting to think that it can't hurt to maybe do an oil change at 750 - 1,000 miles. Brought the mileage up to 546 just driving it down to the shipping port.
  9. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member

    Very conservative; 500 miles, then 1500 miles, then 3000 miles, then 3000 mile intervals. ...conservative; 1000 miles, 5000 miles then every 5000 miles.... by the book 7500 miles and 7500 mile intervals. ... lazy, cheap, destructive; 10,000 miles and 10,000 mile intervals. ...

    How long you expect to keep the car will help you determine the correct intervals for your driving style. :cool:
  10. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    I'm gonna do it every 5,000 miles. I'm at almost 4,000 miles on the original oil. Seems pointless to me to change it before then.
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  11. I have almost 900 miles on mine and gonna do it as usual at every 5000 miles. The oils these days come out in pretty good shape, and that "recommended 5000 miles oil change" can easily last 6000-8000 miles (depending on driving conditions of course). My 1997 Jeep uses 5000 miles (long mileage it's called I think?) oil instead of conventional 3000 due to odom of 75,000+ miles (which is what they recommend). 75% of my driving was freeway, but I was changing it at like 6500-7000 miles, and the oil was clean like new. You make your decision. I personally don't feel like dumping a brand new clean oil at 1000 miles and wasting money when I can do it every 5000 miles just fine, exactly same result.
  12. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member

    That 3000 mile interval comes from the oil companies and service stations wanting to sell more oil than necessary. ...
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  13. ParsonsArmy

    ParsonsArmy New Member

    So you all think that I shouldn't even bother with an oil change at 1,000 miles and just wait for the 5000 mile mark?
  14. Zormecteon

    Zormecteon Active Member

    Tha'ts not what we ALL think. .. .. Rarely does that ever happen.. I changed at 1000 miles to get the break in oil out, then again at about 3500. .. Safest, most paranoid is to change at 500, 1000, 1500, 3000, then every 3000 thereafter... (waste of oil and money ?!).. Most "by the bookish, change at 7500 to 10,000, then every 7500 to 10,000 thereafter. (most wearing)

    How much $$$ to do you have? How long will you keep the car? How hard do you drive? How much do you trust the manufacturer? How much do you trust the oil companies?.. .. Pick your poison.
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  15. SilFister

    SilFister Member

    I followed the Break-in 101 sticky that was posted on one or more of the FiST forums (written by a guy who seemed to have a lot of experience on the subject) - I don't know if it really makes that much of a difference, but I had the time and $$$ to do it so I did. I have about 4850 miles on her and so far no problems and the little beast runs great. When I did the first oil change at ~100 miles and checked the drained oil, it did have a lot of little metal particles in it which confirmed the info in the sticky. Also changed the transmission oil around 1k as well. Since I plan on keeping this car a long time, doing the above can't hurt.
  16. The way I see it. A new engine goes through some basic break-in procedures before being mounted to the car. These days the machining as well as machining precision are way above and beyond what we had even 10 years ago. You sure will have some metal particles in it, but I highly doubt it would be to such an extent that you'd need to change the oil that soon. I mean any big of a particle that can cause some unwanted friction and/or microdamage would be blocked from circulating through the system by an oil filter - that's what it's there for! If you have the time and money (and I believe oil change is not covered through basic warranty, at least that's what I have, yours maybe different) and you feel like "subsidizing" an oil industry then go for it. Again, this is strictly only my view/opinion.
  17. I also read and downloaded that Engine and Powertrain Break-In 101, and after finishing reading all of that I think it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. Again that's my opinion. The only thing I do from that least is sometimes go through rpm ranges in each gear, but that's it.
  18. ParsonsArmy

    ParsonsArmy New Member

    Just a question to maybe spark some curiosity and a good thing to know is... Does anyone know if there are Chip Detectors in the oil system of the FiST?
    I'm an aircraft mechanic and what a Chip Detector does for my Helicopter is it draws in particles in the oil by a magnet (the whole detector is magnetic) and then heats up and melts the particles into a liquid.
  19. SilFister

    SilFister Member

    Not sure about a chip detector, but I believe you can procure a magnetic oil plug (can Google this query) - not certain about its effectiveness, however. I plan to keep my little beast for a long time so I figure anything extra I did when I first purchased my new FiST couldn't hurt - the author of Break-in 101 claims to have over 20 years of mechanical engineering experience in the auto field and has built and torn down hundreds of engines as well as hand built engines for racing. He claims that based upon his expertise, 70% of new car break-in occurs in the first 100 miles. Ergo, the recommend oil change at this juncture. He stipulates that the oil filter can catch only so many metal particles and the oil can only suspend so many of said particles. He further states accelerated engine wear means more small metal particles just waiting to be squashed or redistributed on moving engine parts. If not extracted early, these redistributed particles can often cause tolerance issues that lends to accelerated wear, increased friction, and reduced engine efficiency. Admittedly, his pontifications are on the technically esoteric side I suppose, but do make some sense so I implemented them. Maybe this paradigm won't make any difference as opposed to if I drove my new FiST like I stole it out of the dealer lot… time will tell.
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