Is the Recaro package worth it?

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Interior Upgrades' started by breon, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. breon

    breon Member

    The title says it all. $2000 is a decent chunk of change. My financée loves the heated seats in my 2012 SE, so that would be a bonus for her. I do remember the seats being a bit narrow in the Recaro package for the SVTF. I'm not a fan of that.

    Anyone have any thoughts?
     
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  3. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    Having test driven an ST with Recaros and also done an autocross in an ST with the Recaros I can tell you they are very comfortable to sit in (and probably will be for long drives) and they hold you in the seat well. If you plan to do any cornering (why wouldn't you in the Fiesta ST?) then the Recaros are a must. The regular cloth seats don't have any bolstering to hold you in. The Recaro package comes with the Recaro seats, heated seats, and heated mirrors, the seats alone are worth the cost. Aftermarket Recaros would cost as much or more, these are made for the car and have matching cloth with the rear seats as well. It's really the best value. The only thing is that you should try them out yourself before buying. If you are a bigger guy you may not fit in them. I have a 34" waist and I feel that I fit perfectly. Not too tight, not too loose.
     
  4. BRGT350

    BRGT350 Well-Known Member Staff Member

    I think they are very worth it. I have autocrossed, been on 2 different road courses, driven on a 5 day road trip, and lived with them daily and I am 100% sold on them. I found I have less aches, pains, and fatigue with the Recaro seats on a road trip compared to any stock seat. They are supportive for track and autocross use, but could be a little tighter for me. I have had all sorts do people of different sizes, and none of complained about the seats being too tight. All found the seats to be great. I had at least 7 people autocross the ST and they loved the seats. The regular seats are just normal Fiesta seats with a different cover. They are great for rental cars, and people who will never drive a car for enjoyment. There just isn't enough bolstering or support in the stock seat. Actually, there is almost zero leg bolstering on the base seat, which creates a ton of pain in my knee after a few hours of driving. I drove for 5 straight days in the ST and very little pain from my knees. 3 hours in my 2011 Fiesta and I am ready for a break.
     
  5. amathophobia

    amathophobia Member

    We need the input from someone who has an ST without the recaros and see what they say. Just about everyone here is very pro-recaro biased. If you don't want to spend the money on the recaros you can always buy a pair of sparcos for a good deal less than $2000. You could also wait until fiesta ST recaros show up on eBay or in the junkyards and get yourself one or two that way. Personally I'm going to go non recaro and do what I just said though I will probably just buy one for the drivers side.
     
  6. BRGT350

    BRGT350 Well-Known Member Staff Member

    be advised that adding a non factory Fiesta seat in the ST will cause the airbags not to work, plus you would lose the side airbags. I have gone down the road of adding aftermarket seats to a modern car and it caused issues that made it not worth ever doing again. I would doubt you could buy a set of reclining Sparco seats for less than the upgrade charge of the Recaro seats. A fixed back seat without a roll bar is not very safe for the street. I may be Pro-Recaro, but I have also gone down the path of installing performance seats in a car with Gen2 airbags and ran into problems. It gets really fun trying to sell a car without airbags. It pretty much kills the resale. If you don't reconnect the sensors right if you put the normal seats back in, the fuses blow and they are expensive to replace. Unless I was building a show or dedicated track/race car, I would not replace the seats. Now, you could buy a set of Recaro seats from the junkyard. You would need the matching rears to go with it, plus the heated seat switches, and then wire it all in.

    You wanted input from a ST owner without the Recaro seats, well, I have a 2011 Fiesta with the same seat as the ST base has. I have autocross and tracked both cars, so I have a pretty good understanding of both seats. I have logged over 46,000 miles in the base seat and 6,000 miles in the ST seat. Both tracked, both autocrossed, both driven on road trips, and both have had a number of different passengers.
     
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  7. Stevelach

    Stevelach Active Member

    The Recaro seats are GREAT, but make sure your not too big for them! I'm 5'11" and 175lbs, and they are about as tight as I would want on a long drive.
     
  8. amathophobia

    amathophobia Member

    http://www.saferacer.com/sparco-torino-2-seat#!prettyPhoto $699

    699 + 699 = $1398 + rails probably still less than $2k.

    Brgt350: you don't have non recaros in an ST. That's who I was wanting to hear from. No offense. It just that everyone's argument is that the power of the ST would throw you out of the seat yet no one with non recaros has chimed in to say whether or not this is true. Also you don't have to buy the matching rears or heated seat biz unless you wanted to. Someone posted a pic on here of an ST with just a recaro drivers seat and it looked just fine to me but it may not appeal to symmetry sticklers.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2013
  9. breon

    breon Member

    Thanks for the input guys. I own a 2012 Fiesta now (obviously without recaros). I'm content with the bolstering, or lack thereof. I drove the ST with Recaro package yesterday. I won't be opting for the package. It just wasn't comfortable for me. If my performance suffers a bit on the occasional track day or stage rally pace car duties, I'll live. Also, I won't be replacing my seats side airbags helped save my life once.

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  10. wash

    wash Active Member

    I wanted a non-Recaro ST but I didn't get it.

    My plan was to wait for a Recaro Mustang to get wrecked or buy the FRPP Mustang Recaros because those seats are wider.

    I feel kind of wedged in around my rib cage, I hope the bolsters break in a bit (I've got about a 50" chest).

    Its not bad but so far my longest trip has been about 90 minutes.

    My legs feel fine but I am worried that the side bolster is going to wear out from getting in and out of the car.
     
  11. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    WOW glad you made it out of that one Breon :jawdrop:
     
  12. BRGT350

    BRGT350 Well-Known Member Staff Member


    I have the same seats in my 2011 Fiesta as the base ST, just with a different cover. From a comfort and driving perspective, it is a close comparison. For cornering, my 2011 Fiesta isn't too far off (FRPP suspension and summer tires). Clearly acceleration is not the same, but bolstering doesn't do anything under acceleration. Good find on the seats from SaferRacer.com, but you still lose all 11 airbags. As Breon can prove, having airbags is nice. I will never remove the airbags from a daily driver again. With Gen2 airbags, you remove the seats, you remove the weight sensor, so the airbag light will trigger and won't work. It just isn't the risk. As for size, I have had a number of people with weight greater than 250lbs and way taller than I am without issues. Now, my RaceTech Kevlar seat in my Mustang can't be used by anyone with more than a 32" waist.
     
  13. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    I have seen these pic's I think they are from the Ford Nats in Carlisle Pa. If I recall they swapped out one seat to show the difference ..
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    Enjoy and to each their own I went down the same road and made my choice based on what I wanted. If and when you change out the seats I would very interested to see your build.. FYI BRGT350 you may want too look away as the armrest is in view !!! :whistling::whistling:
     
  14. rweidman

    rweidman New Member

    Well, the base seats are firmer than my leather seats in the '11 SES and have about the same lateral support and maybe slightly less. Unfortunately, with the cornering capability of the ST, the standard seats do not provide enough support. So if you fit in those Recaros, too tight for my 6'4" 250lb body, order them. This car corners like few others.
     
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  15. reddog99

    reddog99 Active Member

    OK here's an opinion from a non-Recaro owner. Keep in mind that everybody's body has different dimensions so YMMV; I'm 5'6" with relatively long legs and a short torso.

    I nearly bought a Recaro equipped model. I had actually ordered one. I have had Recaros in past vehicles that I have owned and liked them. Then I came to my senses and decided that maybe it'd be a good idea to actually sit in one before I blow $2k on them. After the Recaro test fitting, I bought a bare-bones model.

    The problem I have with the Recaro seats is that the front of the seat under your thigh area was just too high and I couldn't get it down to a comfortable level (I think the cushion is longer). When I adjusted the seat level high enough to see over the steering wheel comfortably, then I had trouble holding the clutch to the floor because my thigh was also pressing on the front of the seat cushion. If I could have tilted the seat cushion forward, then it would have fit.

    I have no problems in that respect with the standard seats, but they do give me a backache if I don't use the lumbar support. Otherwise they're comfortable and much firmer than the leather seats that were in the '11 SES I had.
     
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  16. BLarson

    BLarson New Member

    Can you post some pics of your interior. The above pic makes the non Recaro's look like a faded black and not a dark black. Just curios. Thank you.
     
  17. reddog99

    reddog99 Active Member

    The above photo is a good representation of the actual seat. The colors are not straight black, there's a lot of grey in there.

    Yesterday, I went ripping down a local back-country mountain road on a break-in drive and was wishing for the Recaros for a while. I think I'd be cursing them after I got back to traffic though, where I had to start holding the clutch.
     
  18. Removed

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    I was originally going to buy a non-Recaro model, but after the EcoBoost challenge changed my mine. They are snug, but I am glad I got them.
     
  19. Sil3nt611

    Sil3nt611 Active Member

    I was thinking of getting the regular seats until I saw those pictures above posted on Fiesta Faction several months ago. With absolutely no bolstering on the bottom I knew it would not even work with the Fiesta ST for how I like driving. After driving several Fiestas with the Recaros, I'm sold on them. They fit me comfortably and are more comfortable than my current high bolster seats in my ZX2. If you don't fit in them I don't blame you for not getting them. If you can fit and drive in them comfortably there's really no reason not to get them.
     
  20. BLarson

    BLarson New Member

    I agree, as long as you can afford it. If you do 60 month financing, works out to a little more than $30 a month just for the seats. And a $2000 jump in price starts to make the bang for the buck value less apparent. Car and driver, road and track, auto blog etc. have all related this at nauseam. With that being said, they are very nice and appealing seats, I just wish for $2k you got full leather.
     
  21. FSWerksVP

    FSWerksVP Active Member

    I have a Focus ST3 and our shop Fiesta ST has the base seats. I hate the base seats. They don't belong in a sporty compact. I feel like I'm sitting at the dinner table in the Fiesta ST with the base seats.
     

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