Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Interior Upgrades' started by breon, Sep 10, 2013.
imo, yes they are worth it. I love mine and they look great. Get a lot of nice comments on mine.
It is worth it if you like racing style street seats and partial leather in the front and back, makes the whole car sportier!
Maybe not, but they still pull off comfort for me.
I went with the regular seats because I didn't think the car was worth 10% more. At first I regretted it and tried changing my order, but got locked in with the standard seats. The standard seats are comfortable and I do little spirited driving, but when I do, I really wish i had some bolstering. I get tossed around. I'd be happy with both but Definitely don't regret not having them and I enjoy my car as 20k car.
The biggest perk to the non Recaros is being able to spread your legs and put your head back without your head being pitched forward by the head rest . And lumbar when you want it. If I remember correctly my lower back never even touched the Recaros unless I was slouched in there.
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If you want more support for spirited driving while retaining the stock ST seats, what about a clip-in 3-point harness?
Something like that will keep you planted, but can be removed when you don't need it. I have a 4-point for my Focus SVT that I use for autocross, and it really does the trick.
Easy cheap fix. Might consider that n the future as a solution. Usually there is one spot of my commute that has a fun few bends so I got tossed about, but if decide to road trip to some mountain roads or the track I'd probably get one for that.
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This actually looks really nice, do you know how its installed?
The rear clips just hook into the child carseat anchor points. Not sure about the front clips. @Smokin might be able to help with that. My 4-point harness is a bolt-in, and so I bolted them into the belt anchor points on the front floor for the lap portion, and the rear belt anchor points for the shoulder belts. Autocross is my primary activity with the SVTF, so I didn't need a clip-in fitment.
Got many compliments on the Recaros at this weekend's Autox.
As far as performance goes: I lock the seatbelt short then clip myself in tight. I don't notice that I'm sliding around during my laps at all.
Look into the Schroth 3 or 4 point setups as they have a folded over tab on one shoulder strap that is designed to break away and allow you to twist slightly, wedging you in so you do not submarine out of a belt with no crotch strap. They are DOT approved and tested to be quite safe even in a rollover as do allow you to slip down if that happens.
I have owned quite a few sets. I have one 3 point and a pair of quick fit 4 points for my last BMW I am going to see what it would take to use in the FiST and probably sell the 3 point. It is a generic one that bolts to a stock rear seat belt mount location but has a quick release to take it out easily.
The Schroth is the only "race" type harness I will ever have in a car that is not setup for proper race harnesses meaning a legal roll bar or cage and they are pretty easy to find used most of the time.
I also went with the stock seats because I couldn't justify the price increase, and for a daily driver, I'm quite happy with them. I finally tried the Recaros at the New York Auto Show (after driving in the stock seats for a few months), and while I really liked the side bolstering, I didn't like the head rest angle, either. If they had offered the Recaros in full cloth without the heating element and with a less aggressive head rest for under a grand, I probably would have gone for them, but as they're offered at $2K, I have no regrets about picking the stock seats.
With regards to you getting tossed around during your commute, I'd recommend a super-cheap option to try first. For two bucks, try one of these belt locking clips and snug up the lap belt to keep your hips planted in the seat. It certainly won't compare to the stability that the bolstered Recaros would give you, but it may just do the trick for your commute. (And hey, if $2 can save you $2K of buyer's remorse, then that's a beautiful thing!)
whoa... never use child seat anchors for adult harnessbelts. they are not strong enough for the weight of an adult.
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Looks like the weight limit for the LATCH system anchors is about 65 pounds or so. Here's a link to a USA Today article about said limit.
I've crashed a car while wearing a Schroth 4pt and can verify that the anti sub works.
I still don't have an issue with what I paid for the Recaros. Buying a set of aftermarket ones world cost just as much, and in this age of seat airbags and such it's impractical to put aftermarket seats in a new car.
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That they would cost just as much after market is the thing.... Anyone who thinks they are too expensive has most likely NOT priced them out as add ons. I've ALWAYS wanted a set in a car, but they've been way too much. To be able to have a set INSTALLED at that price, while not cheap is still a bargain .. to me. That they match the interior, etc is just icing. ..
At 6" tall 240lbs they are tight, I have a wide back and my back does not touch the back of the seat.
At least I have a good reason to loose weight.
The seats were the option I wanted more than any other. I don't understand the argument against them on price either, as getting a fixed back set of replacement seats would cost just as much, and recliners even more. These are custom tailored to the car, can be color matched in my case, are heated, height adjustable, work perfectly with the airbag and restraint systems, and are warrantied with the rest of the car. $2k is a bargain.
The expense of manufacturing the Recaro seats isn't that much different from manufacturing the standard seats, certainly not $2000 more. That is partly where the "too expensive" rational comes from. Many people just couldn't afford the $2000, regardless of perceived benefits. Whether they are worth the $2000 to you is a different story.
Personally, I found the Recaros uncomfortable (seat base too long), otherwise I'd have gotten them for my car. I thought the standard seats were crap until I discovered the lumbar support lever. Now I think they're fine. You still can't beat the Recaros for holding you in place arounds turns, but most of my driving is commuting, so that aspect doesn't affect me much.
I'm also 6' tall, 245lbs, down from 280lbs, I might've mentioned that in this thread already, either way I agree with ^^ and I'm also using it as an incentive to lose more weight. IMO they are totally worth it and a must.
I'm not a small person - 6'4'', 227lb, and I love these seats.
They DO break in. I was sitting in the passenger seat when I was changing the shift boot and really noticed a more rigid difference in feel. Driver's side is just right for my frame.
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