Race wheels (not cheap)

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Wheel and Tire Upgrades' started by wash, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. wash

    wash Active Member

    I have been talking to an Asian manufacturer of one piece forged aluminum wheels and the possibility of a Fiesta specific wheel is there.

    It would be a 10 spoke design, 17*7.5 or 8", lighter than the OZ wheels that Mountune sells with close to similar pricing.

    Speaking of OZ, their 9 spoke Alleggerita HLT in 17*7.5 45mm et weighs 6.2 kg and is made of cast 356 aluminum.

    The wheels I'm looking at may weigh as little as 5.5 kg and are forged from a much better material. If there is potential for a small group buy we can change details like rim offset.

    In any discussion of wheels, tires should be addressed. The Dunlop Direzza Z2 215-40r17 seems like the best available near stock size.

    I think a 16" wheel and tire combo might be optimum for the ST but the tire choices don't seem to be there. 15" might be great but does not leave any room for bigger brakes which I really would like. 17s have a few good tires, rim weights are higher than I would like but they will work.

    For a set of four rims with tire pressure sensors and tires, I estimate around $2,500. I have no idea on delivery schedule.

    If anyone thinks that is something they have interest in, let me know and I'll give you the details when I get them.

    I know it's an expensive way to lose ~36 lbs but for people who race or just want the best, it may be worth it.
     
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  3. Ataru

    Ataru Member

    When it comes to track wheels, I'll be looking for 15" wheels and some 225/45/15 tires for them. Just large enough to clear the brakes is what you need.
     
  4. WRC Fan

    WRC Fan Administrator Staff Member

    Thanks for the info. There is no harm in that. But, please just be aware that we do have Tire Rack as one of our site sponsors. If anyone is interested in buying from them, we'd appreciate it if you use this link:

    http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=VY9&url=index_w.jsp

    Also, ALL Group Buys, etc. must go through me. And we do not allow commercial posts by non-sponsors. So, please be considerate of the rules and contact me accordingly.

    Thanks!
     
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  5. wash

    wash Active Member

    Hey, if we can figure out the best dimensions for a race wheel and then get Tire Rack to carry that wheel, I'll be all for it.

    What usually happens when you have a car with an oddball pcd is that your only wheel options are heavy and/or weak.

    Hell, if Tire Rack wanted to organize a group buy I would sign up and they could use that deal to sell tires and think about stocking wheels that people want.
     
  6. Ataru

    Ataru Member

    Focus owners have dealt with this issue for 13 years. There are great race wheel choices out there, you just need to know where to look. Perfect Circle Autosport is a sponsor on Focaljet and provides Team Dynamics wheels to the US in 4x108 fitments. Light and priced very fair. I've had two sets of TD wheels in 4x108 in the past.

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  7. CharlesWA

    CharlesWA New Member

    I've got a set of 15x7.5 Rota Slipstreams for the Focus. They clear SVT brakes with 5mm spacers and a little bit clearancing of some of the stamped metal in the rear suspension. Those will probably be one of the cheapest options out there if somebody can get Rota to run a batch again. I think they were in the neighborhood of $500 for the set of 4 a few years ago.

    I also have a set of 17x8 Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2's. I'm picking up a pair of used 245/40R17 A6's this weekend to mount up and start working on fitting under the Focus. As mentioned above, Perfect Circle Autosport has access to custom ordering Team Dynamics wheels (as well as some stock). They have wide options in 15" as well as 17" (and bigger). Special orders do take about 3 months to show up from England if I recall and are priced very reasonably. Figure around $1000 for a set of 17"s.
     
  8. tommy

    tommy New Member

    I ordered a set of TD 1.2s for my crx about 15 months ago; the wait time was about 3 months, Charles is right. Very nice rims, but the wait was likewatching paint dry. Too bad that 949 doesn't offer the bolt pattern; they're pretty inexpensive and decently light.
     
  9. Ataru

    Ataru Member

    Perfect Circle Autosport on Focaljet is a distributor of Tram Dynamics and can get you TD wheels fairly quick. I'm checking on 15x8s from them now.

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  10. FORDSVTPARTS

    FORDSVTPARTS New Member

    Perfect circle is great to deal with too. :)
     
  11. wash

    wash Active Member

    Do their wheels weigh 12 lb?

    Are they forged?
     
  12. Ataru

    Ataru Member

    No, but they don't cost $2500 either.

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  13. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    Ouch there comes a point of diminishing returns of Cost vs Weight savings. But to some the uber light car is the holy grail and cost is no object.. Me I gotta by milk for the kids yet so I was thinking a 1500$ set of wheels was a tad spendy.. but that's just me and my budget committee :wideyed:
    Now if I could find a Aluminum or Carbon Fiber hood that would take off 10 lbs or more that might be a interesting avenue to go down..
    Back to Wheels, be fun to see what comes of SEMA though and I personally have time since winter will be here soon after I have my car I think..
     
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  14. xorpheous

    xorpheous Member

    I know I can find about 30 lbs or so to drop out of my SVTF if the nut behind the wheel would lay off the BigMacs. :S Easiest place to start with weight reduction is with the driver.
     
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  15. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    Agreed if you have it there if not we look other places like taking a rear seat out for track day hehe :mischievous:
     
  16. wash

    wash Active Member

    For the hood, learn how to make molds (that can actually release) and then learn how to do vacuum bag hand layups.

    Its more messy than hard and it takes time but you can get very good results if you know your stuff and don't cut corners.

    As for the wheels, my estimate of $2,500 included tire pressure sensors and Dunlop Direzza Z2 tires. If you look at just the cost of rims, the forged rim costs about twice as much.

    That sounds expensive until you look at the weight of Team Dynamics wheels: about 19 lbs for a 17" for a savings of around 2 lbs over stock.

    A ~12 lb wheel is 8-9 lb savings over stock, about 4x the weight loss for only 2x the price.

    I can spend 2x on wheels and eat a cheeseburger while you only get salad.
     
  17. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    HEY I like a good salad if its hand tossed :rolleyes: LOL I tend to not put the sensors in my extra tires as they are more or less part time tires (track or snows) and I tend to be a bit picky about my cars and check tire pressure at least once a week if not more I can tolerate the TPMS light on for the cost of sensors and if I recall you need to sync the sensors when you switch. at least my GT was that way PITA where as my other cars that use them seem to find the tires just fine.. Correct me if I am wrong as I have been wrong once or twice before ... :joyful: Be fun to see what you end up with though :happy:
    I do however like this from Fifteen52 the new Tarmac R40 2pc forged in 16 inch :woot::greedy:
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  18. PCA-1

    PCA-1 Active Member

    Hello everyone,

    I thought it appropriate to introduce and inform Fiesta ST Network members about Team Dynamics wheels.

    Team Dynamics is a division of Rimstock Plc, the largest OEM wheel manufacturer in the UK. The Team Dynamics brand consists of a variety of wheels for different segments of the world wide market. Team Dynamics wheels can be found from Formula 1 to Touring Car to a weekend racer and street enthusiast and everything in between.

    Team Dynamics is heavy into the Touring Car class, most notably the British Touring Car Championship, where Team Dynamics Motorsport fields a 2 car in house race team which won the BTCC this year. In the past, off and on, Team Dynamics has been the sole supplier of Pro Race 1.2 wheels for the BTCC. Lightweight Pro Race 1.2 wheels are manufactured for the Spec Miata series. As well, Team Dynamics is the sole supplier of forged wheels for the Australian V8 Supercar series. Team Dynamics is a true motorsport division with decades of real world engineering and testing.

    The popular Pro Race line of wheels are designed and engineered to be true track/street wheels. All wheels in this line have track R&D as well as CAD design, finite analysis, multi stage manufacturing processes, ect. The Pro Race 1.2 is the most popular wheel in the Pro Race wheel line. With deep roots in motorsport racing, the Pro Race 1.2 is a lightweight premium low pressure cast, heat treated and shot peened wheel, and is a true bang for the buck wheel. If you do your homework, you will find the Pro Race 1.2 is an excellent choice for dual purpose or street only use. I have been selling the Pro Race since 2009 and have yet to hear back from a customer with any problems. While no wheel is indestructible, the Pro Race 1.2 has been a very reliable, strong wheel and a sensible choice for all enthusiasts wanting to upgrade their automotive experience and performance.

    Team Dynamics does not require a minimum wheel buy in. If you want one wheel, or a million and one wheels, you can order in any of the size/offset/PCD/and colors offered. Buy from available stock or spec order from the factory. ETA's range from 12 weeks for standard container shipping from the UK factory to the US warehouse, then ground shipping to you, or 6-7 weeks ETA's with DHL Wordwide Express 2 day air freight.

    In the case of Team Dynamics wheels, you truly get what you pay for while not paying extra just for a name. You also know who is manufacturing your wheels, how they are manufactured, and where they are manufactured. These are not the typical far east branded wheels sold by shell companies who have no manufacturing facility and are a brand in name only. You only have to ask yourself if it good to know all aspects about the wheels you are buying as opposed to not knowing. Information allows one to have the knowledge to make confident choices. With Team Dynamics, there are no questions that go unanswered within a day or two.

    For more about the company, take a moment to look over their corporate profile. View the divisions website here.

    As an FYI for Fiesta ST owners looking to use their stock wheels for winter and the stock summers tires on a new set of wheels, the 17x7 Pro Race 1.2 weighs 17.3 lbs. the 17x7.5 weighs 18.1 lbs and the 17x8 weighs 19.8 lbs. The Pro Race 3 rally wheel is available in 15x7 with a weight of 15.9 lbs, and a 17x7 with a weight of 19.8lbs. These weigh favorably to the factory Fiesta ST wheel:
    Wheel specifications
    Diameter and width
    17 in. x 7.0 in.
    Offset 47.5 mm
    Backspacing 5.8 in. (149.5 mm)
    Center bore 63.3 mm
    Weight 22.5 lb. (10.2 kg)

    The Pro Race 1.2 wheels have been a popular choice among Focus ST owners as well.

    Note: Should you have questions, please let me know.

    Here are some Fiestas fitted with Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 and Pro Race 3 wheels.
    1st up, the Pro Race 1.2 and 1.2S (accent stripe)
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    And a few Pro Race 3 pics!

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  19. joe@2j-racing

    joe@2j-racing Active Member

    The 17x7 Pro Race 3 weighs 19.8lbs not 18.1
     
  20. PCA-1

    PCA-1 Active Member

  21. PCA-1

    PCA-1 Active Member

    The stock spec for the 18x8 Pro Race 1.2 is 19.8lbs.
     

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