SCCA Autocross setup thread

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Autocross' started by AlanBDahl, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. sholzer

    sholzer New Member

    ^^ Will you be in Verona on the 13th?

    As far as my experience... its a short list lol
    2013 - ESP Mustang, won region championship. One ProSolo I didn't do so well at lol
    2012 - Couple events, I think 4 total. 2 in my 2002 WRX, one in my 2007 STI and one in my mustang when it was stock
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2014
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  3. AlanBDahl

    AlanBDahl Active Member

    My resume, sorry for the length but I've been at this a long time :).

    I started racing in 1986 in a '86 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo, pretty much only at local events.

    I bought a '90 Miata in 1989 to replace the Mirage. My first Solo Nationals was in 1991, I finished 8/40 in CS with the first Nationals trophy ever won by a Miata in any class. Trophied again (10th) in 1993.

    I raced a 1995 Neon ACR in 1994, 24th at Nationals, my worst-ever finish.

    I bought a "96R Miata in 96 and barely got a trophy at Nats but did win the ProSolo club class challenge at a couple of events.

    I raced a friend's Citation Formula Ford in '97. I only drove the car six times total but finished 3rd in one ProSolo Super Challenge. 10th and last trophy at Nationals.

    In 1998 I bought a "99 Miata, 3/59 at '98 Nationals, ProSolo P5 class national champion in '99. Raced the car until 2002 with varying success.

    I ran a friends FSP TR-6 in 2003 with some success but the car couldn't take the pounding and let us down at Nationals.

    In 2004-2005 I raced a HS Audi 90 Quattro. Finished 3rd at Nats in '04 and 6th in '05. Won the super challenge at the '05 Fontana Pro after a second overall the year before. Won my second ProSolo national championship in 2005 over some stiff MINI competition.

    I moved on to a '07 Solstice GXP in 2007. Campaigned it seriously until 2009 and finished 3/59 at Nationals in '09. After that I cut way back for the 2010-2013 seasons doing only a half-dozen events a year. I'm back full-time for 2014 and hoping the Fiesta ST will be just the ticket!
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  4. Nik17

    Nik17 Member

    Since everyone seems to be adding their resume, and as mine is particularly short I'll add mine.

    I started off in 2012 doing a few local events in a bone stock '91 Miata.

    For the 2013 season I added a sway bar to the 22 year old stock suspension and some Star Specs. I won my second novice event and moved to RTR where I could consistently snag third place and a trophy as the season winded down. Losing to fully prepped RTR cars (read: not god awful suspension) and admittedly better drivers.

    2014 brings me to G-Street with 215/45/R17 rivals on the stock wheels. I'll be doing all of the local NER SCCA events as well as the match tour in Ayer, MA come June. It should be quite the learning experience coming from a light FR car. If anyone makes the trip to an NER event, or the match tour feel free to say Hi
  5. CrookedRacer

    CrookedRacer Active Member


    Autocrossed about ten full seasons in the Washington DC area in a '90 Honda Accord EX Coupe from 1993 to 2003.
    Not terribly competitive with it, but I got all I could out of that car. Certainly enough to worry the top drivers in H-Stock here in DC.
    Along the way, several middling finishes at National-level events, pro-solos, and even a rallycross.

    In 2004 I autocrossed others' cars in H-stock to second place for the season.

    Then I got distracted. A wedding, a divorce, a major home renovation... life, I guess.

    This year I'm back, and I'm going to see what I can do with this awesome little hatchback. This weekend should be indicative.
  6. Mightymango

    Mightymango Active Member

    Nice to read about all the people that have done Auto-X and the Fiesta brought them back.
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  7. conevadr

    conevadr New Member

    Nothing too exciting on my autox resume...

    > started in 2001, with purchase of WRX that came with SCCA membership

    > mostly competed locally in western NY, in stock category, road tire classes, one season on R-comps, managed a couple of season championships along with a few near misses

    > always autoxed in my daily driver, EVO, Solstice, and now FiST, also did a season in a mild prep ST Focus

    > usually one or two national level events per year, with a couple of trophies

    > went to Nationals in 2012 in support of Road Tire (now Street) category. It was a long haul in the Solstice with no A/C or cruise control. Coned all runs on first day, but still had a great time and may go back this year. Planning on attending the events at the Meadowlands, Devens, and maybe Wilmington.

    > not too seriously competitive, but always having fun. Almost got the new WRX instead of the FiST, but finally decided that the FiST would be more fun even though the WRX will probably be more competitive.

    George M
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  8. Nik17

    Nik17 Member

    So it appears I may have jumped the gun on the 215/45 Rivals fitting with no rubbing.
    I was approaching a tight u-turn that put the suspension at just about full load, (if not full load as I was carrying some speed) and just at the end of the turn the outside front tire audibly rubbed.

    Afterwards I went to an empty parking lot, turned the traction control off and did some 'donuts' in the name of science.

    Initially when you hit full lock, it doesn't rub at all, but once the suspension compresses it without a doubt rubs. The only thing I couldn't figure out was what exactly was rubbing
  9. Couldahadav8

    Couldahadav8 Active Member

    Funny. Ordered mine just before you posted this. Are yours on stock wheels. I have ozs w 42 offset. Might rub more for me.

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  10. Nik17

    Nik17 Member

    These are on the stock wheels.

    It only seems to rub when the suspension is fully compressed. If you're just using them for the street I would doubt they would rub at all. However, I'm not sure what exactly it's rubbing on, and I'm not sure how I could tell unless I get someone to watch the wheel while turning.
  11. Nik17

    Nik17 Member

    So, I took the FiST out to see what's what today in terms of the rubbing.
    I marked the outside edge, near the wear indicator with chalk and didn't notice anything so perhaps it's the inside edge of the tire that's rubbing.
    Of course in the name of science there's a video.

    That noise (starting around 22 seconds) is rubbing right? It's not quite as harsh as the video suggests but it sounds as if something is flapping (I presume the tire).

  12. Slowclimb

    Slowclimb Active Member

    Could it be the top of the tire on the fender liner?
  13. spangenb

    spangenb Active Member

    Maybe this is the hot setup? 225 Dunlops and coilovers up front, snow tires and stock suspension out back. Ok just kidding ... this was the half-way point of my upgrades on Tuesday. uploadfromtaptalk1396574196452.jpg
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  14. EBinVA

    EBinVA Member

    Unfortunately no I won't be, there's a TSCC race like 15 minutes from my door on the 13th. There's an ODR-SCCA race down here this Sunday (the 6th) if you're willing to drive a few hours to stand in a parking lot though. As always, the Fiesta is available for a co-drive too!
  15. Mightymango

    Mightymango Active Member

    Finally got my rear bar and the first event is just 3 weeks away, plus is it warming up so I can actually give a good report on it with something other then snow tires.
  16. limbo

    limbo Active Member

    Eibach bar? I've got one event on mine so far, couldn't tell much difference but course was on a pretty small lot so hard to gauge.
  17. Mightymango

    Mightymango Active Member

    Yup that would be the one. Our first "real" event is on a fairly large lot and I will be instructing at a smaller lot at the end of the month on a smaller one so I will have a good comparison. (unless I take my shifter kart out instead)
  18. EBinVA

    EBinVA Member

    No autox today for me unfortunately after a mishap involving a large metal container flying off the back of a truck on the highway last night. Flat tire, damaged bumper, and an odd noise coming from the front right suspension (although it feels ok to drive) left me not wanting to risk anything.
  19. RodMoe

    RodMoe Well-Known Member

    Ouch sorry to hear Glad you are alright though ..
  20. Slowclimb

    Slowclimb Active Member

    Event number two for me: SCCA Event at the Meadowlands. Sunny, Dry about 55 degrees but windy as heck.

    Fast course with some big sweepers, 3 slaloms, a couple boxes and an awesome tight turn around through a big dip opening to a really fast slalom.

    The car felt good, stock wheel and tire set up is still the weak point. In slaloms it felt great. In the second slalom I was able to go flat out and was hitting the limiter in second. I read that the limit in second with stock wheels and tires was 58, but according to my GPS it is more like 56....this was a let down. There was a Focus ST running with 2 drivers. I took second to one of those guys. He is fast anyway, but I think the limiter through the fast section put the FiST at a disadvantage against the Focus. A couple more MPH in Second would have been great and probably kept it closer. I let one of the faster drivers run the car and he was about a second faster than I was and about a second slower than the Focus. His observations were close to mine. The car is quick and the chassis has potential. It does everything well, but we both thought it would be better if it had more throttle off over steer so you could tuck it into a cone easier. I am leaning with going to a 205 50 16 Dunlop. I am concerned that if I had too much grip at the rear the car will go the wrong way and become even tighter, when I want to loosen it up a bit. Also thinking increasing the track up front in relation to the back will help, plus a good alignment. All in all a good day, still having fun in the car, loving the power train and starting to come to grips with it.
  21. Couldahadav8

    Couldahadav8 Active Member

    First autocross in the ST. Car is stock except OZ Ultraleggera 17x7 wheels with BFG 215/45/17 tires. Before today, I have never autocrossed a front wheel drive car. 5 Mustangs and an RX8 in the past. Today, there were 69 drivers. I generally PAX in the 10 to 15 range at least in recent years with my DS V6 Mustang and my STU 5.0 2011 Mustang GT. With the RX8, my performances were better. Top PAX place in past was a 3. Today, I was 3rd out of 69 in terms of PAX. Hard not to be happy about that. I left a lot of time out there.

    Notes: The tires are too big and rub on the outside mildly in the front. The offset of the wheels worsened matters. The tires are going to have to do.

    The Fiesta is 1 tripodding MFer. I had virtually no problem with understeer/push today. When the tires were cold, the rearend was difficult to manage. I nearly spun the car in the middle of a slalom. Pressures were 42 f and 48 rear.

    Des Moines Valley Region, SCCA
    Pax Time Results, #2 - The Extra Osky - Sun 04-06-2014
    Timed Entries: 69
    Pax Pos. Pos. Class # Driver Car Model Total Factor Pax Time Diff. From 1st
    1 1 PSTS 13 Preston Jordan 1998 Dodge Neon 51.467 *0.829 42.666 0.000 0.000
    2 2 PCS 124 Mike Bronson 2005 Mazda RX-8 52.542 *0.821 43.137 0.471 0.471
    3 3 PGS 97 Brent Seaton 2014 Ford Fiesta ST 54.108 *0.806 43.611 0.474 0.945
    4 1 BS 113 Kyle Dickinson 2005 Honda S2000 52.568 *0.831 43.684 0.073 1.018
    5 1 STF 79 Jay Sharp 2012 Mazda 2 54.706 *0.801 43.819 0.135 1.153
    6 1 STR 111 Randy Sams 2001 BMW Z3 Coupe 52.365 *0.838 43.881 0.062 1.215
    7 1 STX 83 Luke McKee 1992 Eagle Talon 53.132 *0.827 43.940 0.059 1.274
    8 1 DS 66 Michael Phelps 2012 Subaru WRX 54.008 *0.815 44.016 0.076 1.350
    9 1 SM 73 Jeremy Boysen scion frs 50.770 *0.870 44.169 0.153 1.503
    10 2 STR 98 Patrick Thull 2006 Honda S2000 52.823 *0.838 44.265 0.096 1.599
    11 1 ASP 162 David Price 2005 Porsche 51.122 *0.866 44.271 0.006 1.605
    12 4 PSTU 127 Carl Kirkegaard 1997 BMW M3 52.484 *0.846 44.401 0.130 1.735
    13 3 STR 7 John Jacobs s2000 53.193 *0.838 44.575 0.174 1.909
    14 1 STC 22 David Champion 00 integra 54.202 *0.824 44.662 0.087 1.996
    15 2 STX 6 Yo Keutla frs 54.099 *0.827 44.739 0.077 2.073
    16 1 HSR 141 Jeffrey Wing 1997 Subaru Impreza 55.697 *0.804 44.780 0.041 2.114
    17 2 HSR 43 Robert Wing 1997 Subaru impreza 55.722 *0.804 44.800 0.020 2.134
    18 2 SM 173 Jeremy Boysen scion frs 51.505 *0.870 44.809 0.009 2.143
    19 1 ES 41 Colby Brommel 2001 Mazda Miata 55.088 *0.814 44.841 0.032 2.175
    20 4 STR 81 Thomas Krauel 01 bmw z3 53.678 *0.838 44.982 0.141 2.316
    21 1 CS 94 Jim Kramer 2009 Nissan 370Z 54.887 *0.821 45.062 0.080 2.396
    22 1 STS 78 Jerrald Grogan II 1992 Mazda MIATA 54.361 *0.829 45.065 0.003 2.399
    23 5 PSTC 31 Ryan Hammond 1998 Dodge Neon RT 55.049 *0.824 45.360 0.295 2.694
    24 3 STX 86 Hans Villanueva 2013 Scion frs 55.027 *0.827 45.507 0.147 2.841
    25 4 STX 100 Travis Crooks 2013 Scion FRS 55.031 *0.827 45.510 0.003 2.844
    26 2 CS 84 AJ Hedich scion frswhite 55.656 *0.821 45.693 0.183 3.027
    27 2 STS 110 Scott Phillips 1991 Mazda Miata 55.221 *0.829 45.778 0.085 3.112
    28 3 CS 50 Zac Toman 2013 Subaru BRZ 56.208 *0.821 46.146 0.368 3.480
    29 5 STR 151 Jon Phillips 95 mazda miata 55.109 *0.838 46.181 0.035 3.515
    30 1 DSP 62 Wei Bui 2011 Volkswagen GTI 54.055 *0.855 46.217 0.036 3.551
    31 3 SM 87 Darin Ballard 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X 53.433 *0.870 46.486 0.269 3.820
    32 2 ASP 76 Yo Keutla 08 bmw m3 53.881 *0.866 46.660 0.174 3.994
    33 1 SMF 40 Francisco Davila 2000 Honda Civic 55.004 *0.851 46.808 0.148 4.142
    35 2 DS 33 Ric Johnson 2009 Mini Cooper S 57.816 *0.815 47.120 0.153 4.454
    36 1 BSP 20 Fred Bell 2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe 54.982 *0.863 47.449 0.329 4.783
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2014
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