They had a pretty hard life, about 15,000 miles, they might last a few thousand more in these dry summer months but I have to look for new street rubber. I intend to get some nice 15-16" race rubber and I might quit using my stock wheels soon so I'm looking for something on a budget. I think the 40 series sidewalls are a bit short for the potholes around here so I've been looking at 45 series tires and the most interesting cheap tire I see is the 215-45r17 Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2 which hasn't quite been released yet (due 4-27) but work out to $86 each after rebate. I asked the tire rack to measure the diameter and tread width so I could compare with the 215-45r17 BFG Rival that can rub a little: I hope its a bit shorter and that my stock wheels tuck them in a little better than those 17+7et42 wheels. I hope they will be a 25,000+ mile tire without losing too much grip and decent when there is a little water on the ground because it does rain occasionally in California. I'll post what I hear from the tire rack but if anyone knows a good budget alternative that is sticky and lasts pretty well, tell us.