Track Day: Extreme Speed Track Events (WSIR:Horse Thief Mile)

Discussion in 'Fiesta ST Road Racing' started by McRib 1s Back, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. Mr UFO

    Mr UFO Active Member

    Thanks for the update. I have an autox tomorrow and my 2nd track day in 2 weeks and was wondering how things are holding up!
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  3. wash

    wash Active Member

    That's funny about $$ Motul.

    I know racers who swear by Ford heavy duty DOT3 brake fluid.
  4. DirtyBlueshirt

    DirtyBlueshirt Active Member

    Kind of a side note... I'm trying to find pictures of my Grandfather specifically (these are of a friend of his during the same time) but track racing is in my DNA... he did Formula Vee racing back in the day (Formula Vee was a popular lower-cost alternative to Formula Ford or Formula BMW, using 1600cc VW engines):

  5. was-an-M

    was-an-M Member

    Add me to the list of people who can't wait on the Porterfield pads :)
  6. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Just to clear things up, I still like Motul 600. I just wished I bought the newer Motul 660 instead. I totally boiled the stock Ford stuff -- it's fine, but probably about 500 deg F boiling point. That just isn't high enough for me (my driving style). Maybe I'll be more gentle on the brakes as I better learn the car.

    Anyhow, If I still have a mushy pedal after installing my SS lines and new pads, then I'll complain. So far, it has been good to me on many cars. :)
  7. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Here's a video clip from HTM:

    The quality isn't the best, but it's all I have for now. I'll need to change the angle to avoid windscreen and dash glare (and poor audio and shakiness!). It's done with Harry's Lap Timer GP on my iPhone 5s.

    This fun lap featured an M3 along with a pair of Lotus cars! The black Exige was very fast, it was driven well and had great power to boot. Anyhow, I caught and passed the white Lotus on the next lap. :) Despite the traffic, I was only a couple seconds off my fastest lap of the day.
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  8. wash

    wash Active Member

    This is what I didn't like, passing outside the designated area.

    At the drivers meeting, we were told where and how to pass but some guy in an S2000 who arrived after lunch was driving slow and screwing up the passing zone so a bunch of faster people could not get around him.

    The frustrating part is that an S2000 should run away and hide from a Fiesta ST. It wasn't the car, it was 100% driver.
  9. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    It's almost always the driver. I ran in the red and gold group and they allow open passing along with additional passing areas.

    S2Ks can be very fast there, but time deltas are pretty small. Turns out the FiST is reasonably fast there too.

    The beginners group can be harrowing! It's like anything at the fringe.
  10. DirtyBlueshirt

    DirtyBlueshirt Active Member

    You never know when you'll be racing a Hyundai Elantra Sedan!
  11. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    That's just crazy talk! :)
  12. MLKN

    MLKN Active Member

    I love how you got right up the Exige's ass there for a bit. Rubbin' is racin'
  13. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    I just noticed an interesting comment on YouTube about the "d bag in the beemer". Now, I'm not in the habit of defending Bimmers, but he didn't do anything wrong.

    For reference, this "slow M3" was about four seconds a lap faster than the fastest car in the Green beginner's group (a modified FoST). That's a big gap on this track.

    Incidentally, that same FoST posted a video of him passing one of our FiST. He didn't say anything about the other FiSTs that were faster than him. :)
  14. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Ha, yeah -- it was danger close. :)

    That black Exige was legit. I have several laps with him. I'll look for the lap where I overtook the white one. Also, there's a great lap with a very nice Boss 302. Even with my crappy microphone, it sounds great.
  15. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Lotus chase:

    ...then there was two.
  16. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Hello, lonely Lotus:

    He waves me to pass, but off camera, crowds me off the track! I go two wheels off and make some fun noise.
  17. wash

    wash Active Member

    Yeah, the Fiesta ST hangs with some pretty fast company on that track but the S2000s with decent drivers were quite a bit faster than me.

    DirtyBlueshirt in his Fiesta Titanium would have beat the guy who was holding me up...

    By the way, was that Focus ST video passing me? I waved one by, I can't remember why now. I waved by a lot of cars. I'm not used to road racing so some laps I was just trying to settle my nerves and waved by traffic. Some cars were just faster. A couple times I waved by cars so I wasn't blocking them on my out lap.

    I remember the Focus was pretty close behind me but I don't think I was holding him up very much.

    I know I wasn't going as fast as I could on the bottom of the track and up the straight, I ran out of guts before my car ran out of speed. I don't think I ever nailed a corner carrying maximum speed from braking point to exit so I was losing time everywhere really. There are at least two more seconds in the car that I just didn't get out of it. Maybe that Focus was a little faster but nothing to boast about.
  18. MLKN

    MLKN Active Member

    One of the fastest cars I've come across was the S2000 C/R. The Fiesta may never be able to catch that thing.
  19. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    I often miss my old S2000. It was/is fast on pretty much any venue, but our FiST makes it sporting on the tighter tracks. The FiST is simply easier to drive to/at the limit than a S2K -- no two ways about it. I don't think I can beat a well driven one at Big Willow, but I have kept it pretty sporting at SoW and HTM. In fact, I was faster than all of the S2Ks or Miatas for this particular day. We're talking about drivers again, of course. Would Randy Pobst be faster than me in that S2K (or my own FiST?!)? You bet! Plenty of other ordinary guys are faster than me too. :) The "David and Goliath" factor is part of the attraction. When I caught that built "RS*R" Boss 302, it was satisfying. My self-delusion isn't complete enough to believe that my car is actually faster. We're having a good time!

    Wash: Yes, but you were totally fine. I watched many of your laps and you were courteous (way more than here on the forum even) and didn't hold anyone up. ;) That guy just had some youthful exuberance. He's no different than most of us when we were younger. Something about being in your 20s... Anyhow, nothing to go trolling the FoST guys about. It reminds me that the two groups share a common make, but have vastly different drivers. I'm okay with that.
  20. McRib 1s Back

    McRib 1s Back Well-Known Member

    Mustang Boss 302 "RS*R" Sounds great!

    Also features an S13 that was pretty fast (had S14 and S15 suspension parts).

  21. wash

    wash Active Member

    Well my secret weapon for the Horse Thief mile just arrived!

    I hope I can have the full story by Tuesday or Wednesday...

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