I bought some tpms sensors for my winters. They're fairly cheap for this car at only 30 bucks a sensor. Well worth the peace of mind they offer and to avoid the dinging. I ended up getting some older focus wheels i'm refinishing and buying some 185/55/16 blizzak tires. I know they're a bit tall, but not too bad and should be find for the couple of months they're on. I'll post pics once they're on
I also picked up a set of the Pirelli's in the 195/45-16 size. This should give you an idea what they will look like on the car (I'm going to wait a few weeks and see what the weather does):
Since my 206/45R17 all season tires rub, I ordered dedicated snow tires and the cheapest 16" rims TireRack had. The tires are Pirelli SnowSport 195/50R16 and the rims are Sport Edition SE-16 Silver. I did the first coat of black Plastidip and I like it, still have a couple more coats to go. Here's the before and after shots:
I also picked up a set of the Pirelli's in the 195/45-16 size. This should give you an idea what they will look like on the car (I'm going to wait a few weeks and see what the weather does):
Since my 206/45R17 all season tires rub, I ordered dedicated snow tires and the cheapest 16" rims TireRack had. The tires are Pirelli SnowSport 195/50R16 and the rims are Sport Edition Silver. I did the first coat of black Plastidip and I like it, still have a couple more coats to go. Here's the before and after shots:
This was an exercise in frustration due to costs and other variables. No matter how I sliced it, I was out of $700.
Pure snow tires are pointless for me. If/when it does snow in Maryland, my best bet is to stay the hell off of any and all roads. As such, all-seasons are a more practical compromise.
Ultimately, I chose 17" all-seasons + tpms sensors + shipping + labor/disposal costs (rape) at local installer. I ordered 205/45R17, unfortunately, but that was before I read accounts here of rubbing. However, these tires are also close enough in size for use on my 2002 ZTW. The wheels I chose to utilize are the grey Euro Package SVTs, so I think they'll look nice on the silver ST and the grey ZTW.
And yeah, snow tires and wheels don't come cheap. All told my package was close to $1200. I suppose I could have lied my way out of the TPMS sensors but having the low pressure light constantly on and staring at me from the dash in a brand new vehicle? No thanks. Plus with the low profile tires it might be kinda hard to tell when the pressure is actually on the low side.
This was an exercise in frustration due to costs and other variables. No matter how I sliced it, I was out of $700.
Pure snow tires are pointless for me. If/when it does snow in Maryland, my best bet is to stay the hell off of any and all roads. As such, all-seasons are a more practical compromise.
Ultimately, I chose 17" all-seasons + tpms sensors + shipping + labor/disposal costs (rape) at local installer. I ordered 205/45R17, unfortunately, but that was before I read accounts here of rubbing. However, these tires are also close enough in size for use on my 2002 ZTW. The wheels I chose to utilize are the grey Euro Package SVTs, so I think they'll look nice on the silver ST and the grey ZTW.
The 16" rims and Pirelli Snowsports cost me $900 with tax from TireRack. Luckily they a warehouse less than an hour from my house and I saved $100 by picking them up myself. Not cheap, but great tires according to all the reviews and surveys on TireRack.
Thanks for the pics. Thinking about getting the same wheels/tires but just want to make absolutely sure of the brake clearance. Would you be able to measure the smallest clearance between the outside edge of the caliper and the inner surface of the wheel barrel, as well as the smallest clearance between the face of the caliper and the inner face of the wheel (i.e. spokes)?
I bought the same wheels as RodMoe (15x6.5 MSW Type 23). I bought different tires though. I got a set of 195/55 R15 Michelin X-Ice Xi3 tires. I hope to use them for at least 4 winters. I installed the wheels myself using the included jack and torqued the lug nuts with a torque wrench I already had. One note, although none of the lug nuts on the stock wheels were loose, they did not offer as much resistance to removal as they should have. They clearly were not as tight as the spec. Just throwing that out to new owners as reminder to check the lug nuts on your wheels. I'm going to recheck mine before long.
The tires seem good. I'll have to use them much longer to form a real impression though. So far, they are the most quiet winter tires I have ever owned. They are actually quieter then the stock tires. The ride is softer and handling is not as good as the stock tires and wheels, but that is to be expected.
I'll try to get some measurements, but there is plenty of clearance between the outside edge of the caliper and the inner wheel surface. There is also plenty of clearance between the face of the caliper and the spokes.
Since my 206/45R17 all season tires rub, I ordered dedicated snow tires and the cheapest 16" rims TireRack had. The tires are Pirelli SnowSport 195/50R16 and the rims are Sport Edition SE-16 Silver. I did the first coat of black Plastidip and I like it, still have a couple more coats to go. Here's the before and after shots:
very weird 205 45 17 rub , it just 1 inch more than the original set-up , and on the total high .
when you say the Wheel rub on bump , you speak of big bump or little .
i m say this because i have my winter tire and Wheel and it s this size :headbang:
thank s for reply
The tire was rubbing on the wheel liner and was wearing a flat spot on it. The tire showed no signs of wear. I didn't like it because I didn't want it to wear through. It also threw the speedometer off by ~5%. I probably could have lived with it, but I decided not to.
The tire was rubbing on the wheel liner and was wearing a flat spot on it. The tire showed no signs of wear. I didn't like it because I didn't want it to wear through. It also threw the speedometer off by ~5%. I probably could have lived with it, but I decided not to.
Mind if I ask where it was rubbing on the liner? During full right/left lock? Bumps? Compression? I just ordered a 195/60/15 ... 24.2" .. (granted I don't own an ST yet) but would like my current setup to transfer! ...
Mind if I ask where it was rubbing on the liner? During full right/left lock? Bumps? Compression? I just ordered a 195/60/15 ... 24.2" .. (granted I don't own an ST yet) but would like my current setup to transfer! ...
It was actually the rear tire that was rubbing the rear center portion of the liner. It wasn't hitting with the car parked, so I'm sure it was during bumps or corners It probably wouldn't hurt the tires at all, but I don't want to wear through the liners and end up with too much sand and salt getting above the liner and causing problems. You can see (sort of) in the second picture where the is a flat spot on the liner already. I was concerned that if I ever put more people or any weight in the back that it would really cause it to wear through. Maybe there is enough variability in the shape of the liners that it won't be a problem for others, but I would certainly keep an eye on it if you put tires larger than 24" diameter on your car.
The ST will ding at you and display a warning message with every engine start up without TPMS, unlike the 2011-13 cars that just illuminated a light on the dash. Since the ding is highly annoying, I will get a second set of sensors for the winter tires.
My wife drove yesterday with my sons SVT wheels which have no TPMS while her winter tires were being fitted. No light came up then. One tire was down to 21.5 psi as my wife said it felt bad. No wonder.
We also drove with another set of SVT wheels for 2 days and no lights came on.
Maybe the light only comes on if the TPMS is present and it detects low pressure?
My wife drove yesterday with my sons SVT wheels which have no TPMS while her winter tires were being fitted. No light came up then. One tire was down to 21.5 psi as my wife said it felt bad. No wonder.
We also drove with another set of SVT wheels for 2 days and no lights came on.
Maybe the light only comes on if the TPMS is present and it detects low pressure?
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